tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2087544938250245173.post102229648978931089..comments2023-10-17T03:46:35.289-07:00Comments on Free Energy Tracker: The Mysterious MarissaWill Gormanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11560983033718010747noreply@blogger.comBlogger55125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2087544938250245173.post-56706466304094159682007-07-18T23:37:00.000-07:002007-07-18T23:37:00.000-07:00"it is obvious why magnatrix does not let you back...<I>"it is obvious why magnatrix does not let you back on the forum. I see every chance that you get, you insult her. And not just on this blog either."</I><BR/><BR/>Can you cite a single example of my insulting Magnatrix? Or perhaps you think telling the truth can be an insult? Anyway, show me (quote) an example of an insult-- give it your best shot.<BR/><BR/><I>"Crank has said several times that she is not a 'believer'."</I><BR/><BR/>She may have said that but if I recall correctly, she behaves like one. It's not too unusual in various sorts of con schemes for believers to claim that they are skeptical. Most don't have a clue what skeptical means. Anyway, it was Magnatrix who apparently banned me and who, without my permission, maliciously altered my profile on the Steorn forum to say that I was someone called "Pennies". Not a terribly impartial nor bright thing to do.<BR/><BR/>I don't like conversations about inconsequential personalities in forums devoted to issues so that's all I'll say about any of this. The rest will be about issues, such as they are now that the demo was totally snafu'd.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2087544938250245173.post-27528038863317333022007-07-18T18:05:00.000-07:002007-07-18T18:05:00.000-07:00@ maryyugoit is obvious why magnatrix does not let...@ maryyugo<BR/>it is obvious why magnatrix does not let you back on the forum. I see every chance that you get, you insult her. And not just on this blog either.<BR/><BR/><BR/> duh... why am I banned?<BR/>Hello? Hello? is this thing on?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2087544938250245173.post-41777626131466730872007-07-18T14:49:00.000-07:002007-07-18T14:49:00.000-07:00Amazing Randi has many articles on Puthoff and the...Amazing Randi has many articles on Puthoff and the Geller debacle. Just put in Hal's name in the search box.<BR/><BR/>http://www.randi.org/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2087544938250245173.post-1232508837445262032007-07-18T13:28:00.000-07:002007-07-18T13:28:00.000-07:00"Why would they have to be "in on the plot"? Belie..."Why would they have to be "in on the plot"? Believers find it natural and acceptable that dissent must be suppressed."<BR/><BR/>Crank has said several times that she is not a 'believer'.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2087544938250245173.post-38836712888092950412007-07-18T12:07:00.000-07:002007-07-18T12:07:00.000-07:00" Hal's reputation fairly precedes him. "Dr. Putho...<I>" Hal's reputation fairly precedes him. "</I><BR/><BR/>Dr. Puthoff recently wrote an excellent paper on how to test claims of overunity -- though I think it's a bit over-elaborate for stuff like Steorn's claims. But it's important to remember that he was thoroughly bamboozled by phony psychic Uri Geller in the 1970's. Puthoff wrote a very embarassing paper in Nature magazine then. He's not shown much regret about it that I've seen.<BR/><BR/>If someone wants links to that particular farce, please make note here and I will find them.<BR/><BR/>Puthoff is a bit too "woowoowooooooooooo" for my taste. Maybe he learned something from the Geller fiasco-- maybe not enough. Anyone know for sure? I'd feel a lot better about it if somewhere he had admitted how bogus Geller is and how badly he, Puthoff, had been flummoxed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2087544938250245173.post-53524213731251484712007-07-18T12:03:00.000-07:002007-07-18T12:03:00.000-07:00"And Crank and Magnatrix would have to be in on th...<I>"And Crank and Magnatrix would have to be in on the plot rather than just be doing what moderators do."</I> <BR/><BR/>Why would they have to be "in on the plot"? Believers find it natural and acceptable that dissent must be suppressed. That's certainly the case with "psychic" forums where the moderators are nice, kind, and deluded people who get fiercely defensive when their "beliefs" are challenged. And the better the challenge, the angrier they get -- just as Crank and Magnatrix ban capriciously some of the most effective and sober critics rather than the most disruptive, off topic, or obscene posters.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2087544938250245173.post-43864666937945279032007-07-18T06:26:00.000-07:002007-07-18T06:26:00.000-07:00And Crank and Magnatrix would have to be in on the...And Crank and Magnatrix would have to be in on the plot rather than just be doing what moderators do. As far as I know they have no connection with Steorn except that they are forum participants like everyone else.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2087544938250245173.post-66866582312773118182007-07-18T03:48:00.000-07:002007-07-18T03:48:00.000-07:00mary writes..capriciously banning forum participan...mary writes..<BR/><I>capriciously banning forum participants who disagree with the moderators is a hallmark of fraudulent operations</I><BR/><BR/>I guess you haven't been around many internet forums, a lot of moderators are like that. It doesn't prove anything.bchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12014883276329736216noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2087544938250245173.post-85703048673005557152007-07-17T17:48:00.000-07:002007-07-17T17:48:00.000-07:00@couldbeabout: my being banned"Why tell us? Take i...@couldbe<BR/>about: my being banned<BR/><BR/>"Why tell us? Take it up with Magnatrix."<BR/><BR/>I did. She didn't answer my email. As to "why tell us?" -- it's because capriciously banning forum participants who disagree with the moderators is a hallmark of fraudulent operations. It's the typical modus operandi of psychic mediums who "talk to the dead", for example.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2087544938250245173.post-79231847413672683532007-07-17T15:05:00.000-07:002007-07-17T15:05:00.000-07:00reading the supermag patent, its just a generator ...reading the supermag patent, its just a generator that uses the boiling of liquid nitrogen as the energy source. They use the current through a superconductor coil (cooled with liquid nitrogen) as the source of the megnetic field, but so what. Any energy output will be less than the energy used to initially cool the nitrogen down to a liquid.<BR/><BR/>The patent certainly doesn't claim free energy (which, if it did, would have prevented it from being issued).<BR/><BR/>Nothing there (just like Steon).<BR/><BR/>BTW, any links to Steon's patent applications?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2087544938250245173.post-22597446216145048112007-07-17T14:46:00.000-07:002007-07-17T14:46:00.000-07:00Here is another example, including a cancelled dem...Here is another example, including a cancelled demo and nervous investors:<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crypto_Operating_System" REL="nofollow">COS</A>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2087544938250245173.post-60216173099207343472007-07-17T13:18:00.000-07:002007-07-17T13:18:00.000-07:00"This is the 21st century--after a scam like this,..."This is the 21st century--after a scam like this, you can't just pack your bags and move to the next town."<BR/><BR/>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phantom_Entertainment<BR/><BR/>Oh yeah?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2087544938250245173.post-75822755425631742392007-07-17T12:50:00.000-07:002007-07-17T12:50:00.000-07:00"other than holding Steorn to clarity and common s..."other than holding Steorn to clarity and common sense?"<BR/><BR/>Good luck with that. They rarely show either.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17655287350627311126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2087544938250245173.post-5921747837235757822007-07-17T12:30:00.000-07:002007-07-17T12:30:00.000-07:00"--other than holding Steorn to clarity and common..."--other than holding Steorn to clarity and common sense?"<BR/><BR/>Which is what pennies was doing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2087544938250245173.post-67090900861893577852007-07-17T12:19:00.000-07:002007-07-17T12:19:00.000-07:00"Maryyugo, you may not be Pennies_everywhere but y...<I>"Maryyugo, you may not be Pennies_everywhere but you'll do in her stead:) "</I><BR/><BR/>DO WHAT?<BR/><BR/>--other than holding Steorn to clarity and common sense?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2087544938250245173.post-80223032445502525942007-07-17T10:51:00.000-07:002007-07-17T10:51:00.000-07:00Maryyugo, you may not be Pennies_everywhere but yo...Maryyugo, you may not be Pennies_everywhere but you'll do in her stead:)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2087544938250245173.post-45632520221260190142007-07-17T10:41:00.000-07:002007-07-17T10:41:00.000-07:00My comments about the Engadget interview are here ...<A HREF="http://www.fizzx.com/viewtopic.php?t=265" REL="nofollow">My comments about the Engadget interview are here (link).</A>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2087544938250245173.post-57219934823755431052007-07-17T10:25:00.000-07:002007-07-17T10:25:00.000-07:00"how long *more* do you think it should be before ..."how long *more* do you think it should be before Steorn actually shows a working device or if they can't, they're labelled a fraud, delusion or scam? Just curious! Thank"<BR/><BR/>If Steorn has shown one thing they do well it is the stall. They can probably stall this thing for a loooong time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2087544938250245173.post-33073406123631211872007-07-17T09:44:00.000-07:002007-07-17T09:44:00.000-07:00Today's Engadget interview -- Sean makes about as ...Today's Engadget interview -- Sean makes about as little sense as ever but the abusrd claims are unchanged:<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/17/the-engadget-interview-sean-mccarthy-ceo-of-steorn/" REL="nofollow">here.</A>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2087544938250245173.post-86327488435112412742007-07-17T09:39:00.000-07:002007-07-17T09:39:00.000-07:00http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/17/the-engadget-in...http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/17/the-engadget-interview-sean-mccarthy-ceo-of-steorn/<BR/><BR/>Did 285%-400% OU just morph into 485% OU?<BR/><BR/>Sean should write his BS down for later reference.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2087544938250245173.post-271953457601206842007-07-17T09:07:00.000-07:002007-07-17T09:07:00.000-07:00(hairykrishna)Hey, I was apparently banned because...(hairykrishna)<BR/><BR/>Hey, I was apparently banned because it was Seans birthday. Didn't see that in the terms and conditions... <BR/>It was pretty obvious a long time ago that the bans follow different rules for skeptics/non-skeptics. Remember the last time an abusive 'believer' was banned? Me neither. Just let it go - there's no shortage of other forums to discuss on (here for instance).<BR/><BR/><BR/>Can drmike describe a thought experiment showing an error in Seans physics reasoning? It'd be nice to see something specific.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17655287350627311126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2087544938250245173.post-52347188466079992182007-07-17T09:00:00.000-07:002007-07-17T09:00:00.000-07:00Sorry but I must've missed the clownish part. Coul...Sorry but I must've missed the clownish part. Could you just briefly describe it for me? <BR/>++++++++++++++<BR/><BR/>'Clownish' was inaccurate - he was either a troll (i.e. insincere), or mentally ill; in either case, well deserving of the boot.<BR/><BR/>+++++++++++++<BR/>Also, I was banned. I don't recall making any clownish posts-- skeptical yes, clownish no. <BR/>Somehow, Magnatrix psychically deduced I was the same person as "Pennies" -- which of course I emphatically am not (nothing against her, I'm just not her)!<BR/>+++++++++++++<BR/><BR/>Why tell us? Take it up with Magnatrix.<BR/><BR/><BR/>+++++++++++<BR/>how long *more* do you think it should be before Steorn actually shows a working device or if they can't, they're labelled a fraud, delusion or scam? Just curious! Thanks.<BR/>+++++++++++<BR/><BR/>I have no deadlines to suggest.<BR/><BR/>At this point I doubt they have anything, partly because of the demo fiasco and partly because, it seems, the jury has not yet seen an orbo. Hard to believe human beings could contain, for six months, their curiosity about a world-changing device, and be satisfied with just paperwork.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2087544938250245173.post-40927575911517324462007-07-17T08:42:00.000-07:002007-07-17T08:42:00.000-07:00@couldbe"The poster that was banned was an obvious...@couldbe<BR/><BR/><I>"The poster that was banned was an obvious clown and troll. Whatever her reasons, Crank did the right thing by getting rid of him quickly."</I><BR/><BR/>Sorry but I must've missed the clownish part. Could you just briefly describe it for me? I saw some restatements of claims and calls for clarification. I have to admit I didn't pay a lot of attention because a lot of the writing was poor and who was quoting what was hard to follow (as it often is on that forum). Clownish? I dunno!<BR/><BR/>Also, I was banned. I don't recall making any clownish posts-- skeptical yes, clownish no. Somehow, Magnatrix psychically deduced I was the same person as "Pennies" -- which of course I emphatically am not (nothing against her, I'm just not her)!<BR/><BR/>As to Dr. Mike being shown some sort of *description* of "the technology", you're correct but it's sort of hairsplitting. What he's been told about how Orbo works, he isn't allowed to print. And he was shown absolutely nothing that demonstrated technology. I think we agree on the facts-- maybe not on how exactly to put it.<BR/><BR/>By the way, considering all their claims, and how Dr. Mike doesn't think the "technology" is workable, how long *more* do you think it should be before Steorn actually shows a working device or if they can't, they're labelled a fraud, delusion or scam? Just curious! Thanks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2087544938250245173.post-78097560372494010462007-07-17T07:45:00.000-07:002007-07-17T07:45:00.000-07:00Thanks loustic! I had not seen that site-- it mus...Thanks loustic! I had not seen that site-- it must be comparatively new. They didn't have a web site a few months ago. From there, this gobbledygook:<BR/><BR/>"The source of the heat energy is also abundant, inexhaustible, and universally available. This heat energy comes from our sun. The energy is absorbed by our machine and converted into mechanical energy by powering a turbine. The turbine rotates a Faraday disk in an intense magnetic field that is produced by a superconducting coil. This action produces an electrical current in the disc and that current is fed to devices outside the generating system to perform useful work. <BR/><BR/>The superconducting coil in the machine is kept below its critical temperature by the liquid nitrogen in which the coil is submerged. A persistence switch is closed to allow the current in the coil to circulate thru the coil without any external source of electrical energy. The machine is capable of producing very large electrical currents through the coil. In fact, if the coil is kept below its critical temperature, the current circulating in the coil will not diminish because there is no resistance to the flow of the current in the superconducting coil." <BR/><BR/>It sounds as if they are describing a <A HREF="http://albany.bizjournals.com/albany/stories/2003/07/21/daily44.html" REL="nofollow">superconducting generator.</A> but that doesn't jibe with all the hype coming from Marketwire (a pump and dump vehicle for worthless stocks). The hype is about "overunity". Well, they promise to reveal by September -- I wonder if they will invite Dr. Mike to "bring his screwdriver" and if they will pay his way!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2087544938250245173.post-62131133826666349072007-07-17T07:41:00.000-07:002007-07-17T07:41:00.000-07:00maryyugo said... Crank said to Dr. Mike at the ...maryyugo said...<BR/><BR/> Crank said to Dr. Mike at the Steorn forum:<BR/><BR/> "... You've been able to give your opinion of the tech, so I guess we'll hear their opinion [the "jury's"] as well... "<BR/><BR/> But Dr. Mike did not give any opinion about "the tech" because he was not shown any "tech". <BR/>+++++++++++<BR/><BR/>He was at least told, apparently, the theory behind the orbo - this was when he first agreed to come over, and, after pondering on it, and talking to some people at kinetica, he had an insight into what was wrong with the logic of the theory (I'm paraphrasing what I understood him to say in his report; I haven't checked it again).<BR/><BR/>He told Sean what was wrong, and told a bunch of people at a pub, so if they weren't all too drunk to remember, his analysis of Steorn's mistake is known to several people, so he has given an opinion of the tech.<BR/><BR/>I suggested on the steorn public forum that he email one or more members of the spdc, who are also under nda, so that they could tell other members of the spdc. He was scheduled to report to them in any case, but the debacle got in the way.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com