tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2087544938250245173.post2214352649506994160..comments2023-10-17T03:46:35.289-07:00Comments on Free Energy Tracker: Is it or Isn't It?Will Gormanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11560983033718010747noreply@blogger.comBlogger43125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2087544938250245173.post-81659859620339491312007-07-03T18:37:00.000-07:002007-07-03T18:37:00.000-07:00Yep, Steorn are sure making a concerted effort to ...Yep, Steorn are sure making a concerted effort to kill off their open forum.<BR/><BR/>In my view, taking the temperature of the more credible and critical thinking believers (i.e. not Babcat), if they don't show a self-sustaining AND LOAD BEARING device on Thursday then interest will completely fall away. By load bearing I mean a load that approached the famed .5 w per ccAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2087544938250245173.post-37684435984389030072007-07-03T11:13:00.000-07:002007-07-03T11:13:00.000-07:00I posted two links on Steorn's forum to pages on t...I posted two links on Steorn's forum to pages on the Dispatches from the Future blog about the speculation for the demo being at Kinetica from the 5th to the 13th. Those threads were quickly put into "invisible sink" mode, and today, lo and behold, my forum account can't post anymore. I'd say it looks like those posts may be on the right track. Also the dates at this Kinetica URL for their next event (no info but the dates yet) agree with those posts:<BR/><BR/>http://tinyurl.com/3ynkjqAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2087544938250245173.post-68405655919571678852007-07-02T14:46:00.000-07:002007-07-02T14:46:00.000-07:00So funny to see all the anonymous paranoya talk.Yo...So funny to see all the anonymous paranoya talk.<BR/><BR/>Your blog rocks! HAHAHA<BR/><BR/>I think you should at least have 1 post about Dennis Lee here. The skeptics love him.Gaby de Wildehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02327693016458655191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2087544938250245173.post-13244321556064399312007-07-02T00:37:00.000-07:002007-07-02T00:37:00.000-07:00Two investment scams are beeing investigated in Sw...Two investment scams are beeing investigated in Sweden.<BR/>People behaving like "very credible business men" have been able to collect 250 million euro from investors.<BR/><BR/>In Norway a new "networking sales company" has startet to collect millions from their "members". <BR/><BR/>This makes Steorn seem like a rather small scale business.<BR/>If Steorn have invented the fire and wheel version 2.0 they should be able to collect more money that ordinary scammers do.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2087544938250245173.post-48322580155934447992007-07-01T23:41:00.000-07:002007-07-01T23:41:00.000-07:00@anonymous just how is it good that Steorn is supp...@anonymous just how is it good that Steorn is supposedly at the last minute putting off their latest promise to make a first showing of any substance? Why is a six to nine month delay reassuring to you?<BR/><BR/>I am also curious why you express reassurance in the idea that Steorn would be taking in "3.6 million EU more" when they have previously used claims that they were not taking money as a central pillar supporting their credibility. Thoughts?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2087544938250245173.post-67027785872109904942007-07-01T17:17:00.000-07:002007-07-01T17:17:00.000-07:00"If Steorn doesn't deliver *something* next week, ..."If Steorn doesn't deliver *something* next week, after all the hoopla and what with Dr. Mike making the trip all the way across the ocean, their credibility will evaporate quicker than ice cream on a hot pavement."<BR/><BR/>Reporting from the SPDC. Q1, 2008 announcement has been made in the SPDC. As can be imagined a few are hotly disgruntled but the believers are accepting it and moving forward. The general consensus is that we are in this for the long haul and should not expect the world of Steorn. Also, promising new news of Steorn acquiring an additional 3.6 million in funding for Orbo! Life is good! I think I speak for most of the SPDC that we are enjoying being part of this historical event. Be patient folks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2087544938250245173.post-11983322701914715912007-07-01T17:00:00.000-07:002007-07-01T17:00:00.000-07:00@15 India Streetyou said "@anonymouse> 0.72 megawa...@15 India Street<BR/><BR/>you said <BR/>"@anonymouse<BR/>> 0.72 megawatt prototype '4c'<BR/><BR/>ROTFLMAO - "We want more!""<BR/><BR/>Well, if you want twice that much, build two.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2087544938250245173.post-27224450619656267162007-07-01T16:53:00.000-07:002007-07-01T16:53:00.000-07:00mary yugo said:"I guess I just don't understand so...mary yugo said:<BR/>"I guess I just don't understand some people-- for example "anonymous" (heh!) who says to shut up about the 550hp motor when in fact Sean said: "The 550 HP is a derived figure based on test data from test<BR/>systems of varying sizes.""<BR/><BR/>I am sick of your continous distortions of facts to suit your uninformed agenda.<BR/><BR/>Please find the reference to this quote or admit that you made it up.<BR/><BR/>What Sean actually described was that the forces were measured on a dynamic test configuration. Since speed is component in the power calculations, the speed was estimated based on their experience with various configurations.<BR/><BR/>Nothing was derived.<BR/>Nothing was extrapolated.<BR/>Force was measured.<BR/>Speed was estimated.<BR/><BR/>Get it right or shut up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2087544938250245173.post-4753702360104146392007-07-01T16:20:00.000-07:002007-07-01T16:20:00.000-07:00I guess I just don't understand some people-- for ...I guess I just don't understand some people-- for example "anonymous" (heh!) who says to shut up about the 550hp motor when in fact Sean said: "The 550 HP is a derived figure based on test data from test<BR/>systems of varying sizes." <BR/><BR/>Really? Can we see one of these test systems of "varying sizes"?<BR/><BR/>However, the other "anonymous" is just as absurd. If Steorn doesn't deliver *something* next week, after all the hoopla and what with Dr. Mike making the trip all the way across the ocean, their credibility will evaporate quicker than ice cream on a hot pavement.<BR/><BR/>Maybe there's something about calling yourself "anonymous" that makes people post strange and meaningless things?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2087544938250245173.post-35059965009682183082007-07-01T15:36:00.000-07:002007-07-01T15:36:00.000-07:00I just want to quell these Kinetica rumours. Ther...I just want to quell these Kinetica rumours. There is no show at Kinetica!! Due to technical issues and time constraints the July demo is being pushed out to Q1, 2008. This information will be posted at Steorn momentarily when Caitlin get's the bloody ftp password reset! Don't worry about the delay, it is for good and exciting reason!<BR/><BR/>SeanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2087544938250245173.post-81858057446253956102007-07-01T13:48:00.000-07:002007-07-01T13:48:00.000-07:00@ MaryyugoSteorn:"there is no 550 BHP Steorn motor...@ Maryyugo<BR/><BR/>Steorn:<BR/>"there is no 550 BHP Steorn motor whirring away."<BR/><BR/>You just posted it twice yourself, so shut up about 550BHPAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2087544938250245173.post-6730417643819079712007-07-01T13:13:00.000-07:002007-07-01T13:13:00.000-07:00Sorry for the double post. I got an error message...Sorry for the double post. I got an error message on the first one but I guess it got through-- admin please delete one if feasible. Thanks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2087544938250245173.post-31178493634607839092007-07-01T12:54:00.000-07:002007-07-01T12:54:00.000-07:00With thanks to GravityBoots, here's what Sean actu...With thanks to GravityBoots, here's what Sean actually has written over time:<BR/><BR/>"Thought this might be useful….a reference point for some of Sean’s comments to aid linking, reduce repeated questions and avoid misconceptions. <BR/><BR/>Sorry but I didn’t record aliases with quotes. Most are relatively new. A couple go way back. Feel free to add anymore you find.<BR/>On the technology<BR/><BR/><BR/>Do you actually have a "system" (a mechanical apparatus of some kind containing wheels and magnets and things) that has moving parts, no source of input energy (other than an initial kick or spin or whatever) and in which some of the parts continue to move indefinitely (i.e. until they wear out)?<BR/><BR/><BR/>Steorn<BR/><BR/>I have answered this many times. Yes (again).<BR/><BR/><BR/>Steorn claims in three years they have never configured the device to drive itself. Self-powered operation is the most fundamental test for OU. Steorn's OU percentages are far beyond losses that would be incurred in any one or two electromechanical conversion steps to get the output coupled to the input.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Steorn<BR/><BR/>What I said was that we had never connected the technology to a generator, i.e. we have not set it up to produce electrical power, just mechanical. Some may find this strange but you need to understand that the energy involved is mechanical. <BR/><BR/>As stated the technology does self sustain, and hence output is connected to input.<BR/><BR/><BR/>In an early interview you claimd .5amps per cc and later corrected this to .5w per cc. You also indicated that the power scales as a linear function of the volume, so 2cc would be 1w. A later figure of 4.5w per cc seems to have been introduced - with the clarification that this is the power without space for electrical generation. Are these correct.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Steorn<BR/><BR/>when I say watts I am generally referring to electrical power output (based on know efficiency of generators), when I say HP I am generally referring to mechanical power output.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Since you didn't correct the actual figures, can we presume you are sticking by them as claimed outputs? <BR/><BR/><BR/>Steorn<BR/><BR/>Yes<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>Steorn<BR/><BR/>The tech does generate power!!!! Its mech power, think of its as an engine, now everyone knows that when you connect an engine to a generator you get electrical power. This is not in fact what would happen with our tech, since the tech is magnets in motion - a 'real' electrical device based around our tech would include coils integrated into the mech part to generate electrical current in one unit. Now as I said months ago we have done some provisional testing with coils, however there are lots of current rectifying issues that need to be resolved (normal engineering stuff). This engineering will not be done by Steorn, this is product engineering.<BR/><BR/>Steorn<BR/><BR/>our tech involves stop start motions, we have tested with coils to use them as speed control (an electrical break). Now a final product would involve a flywheel to produce constant motion and hence is not an issue for connection directly to a generator - but we expect that actual products will just involve integrated coils. We will never do this work, this will be done by companies who do this kind of a thing for a living under license from us.<BR/><BR/>Steorn<BR/><BR/>It is possible and very easy to convert any motive energy into electrical energy, this also stands for our technology. <BR/><BR/><BR/>Sean says they have hooked their device up to an electrical generator and that they have only produced "mechanical" energy. As converting mechanical energy to electrical is trivial, and they have had 3 years to mess around with it, I have no idea why they have never done this<BR/><BR/><BR/>Steorn<BR/><BR/>It is just not important from a technical standpoint - we are in a constant state of development on the core effect all engineers buried all the time with work that moves the technology forward. We have no plans to build products (we do have a partner company doing that), we do IP, not products.<BR/><BR/>Hooking the technology up to a generator does not tell us anything - because the power output from the generator is a funtion of the efficiency of the generator with the power input by our technology - this simply makes the maths more complicated than necessary and serves no purpose.<BR/><BR/>This fascination with devices and connecting to generators does amuse me. We are developing a platform technology - it gets tested across various scales to demonstrate scalability - whats the largest test, whats the largest prototype, does it really violate CoE and so on and so on.<BR/><BR/>Steorn<BR/><BR/>there is no 550 BHP Steorn motor whirring away.<BR/><BR/>The 550 HP is a derived figure based on test data from test<BR/>systems of varying sizes."<BR/><BR/>Found here: <A HREF="http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=40661" REL="nofollow">http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=40661</A><BR/><BR/>The above speaks for itself, I think. And it makes it very clear that Steorn has a lot of promises to live up to *soon*! <BR/><BR/>And BTW, Mr. Anonymous (that names suits you) -- I didn't say I wouldn't post anywhere-- just not on the Steorn forum, until the July demo. And I was still "banned" -- but as everyone should know, being banned isn't the same as being unable to post just as claiming a free energy device doesn't mean having a free energy device.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2087544938250245173.post-77596297782563162362007-07-01T12:30:00.000-07:002007-07-01T12:30:00.000-07:00More rumors appearing in my inbox from "Anonymous ...More rumors appearing in my inbox from "Anonymous Remailer (austria)". I figured I'd share with everyone:<BR/><BR/>Transcript of telephone call recorded at 17:24 BST Sunday 1st July, 2007<BR/><BR/>Kinetica receptionist: “Hello Kinetica”<BR/><BR/>SH: Hi, I’m just looking at your website, what have you got on next week, because the old Soundwaves one has finished hasn’t it?<BR/><BR/>Kinetica receptionist: Sorry?<BR/><BR/>SH: The Soundwaves exhition’s over.<BR/><BR/>Kinetica receptionist: Yes, Soundwaves exhibition is over and then we’ve got a private exhibition next week, umm, which is not curated by Kinetica. It will be open to the public from Thursday, but unfortunately I can’t say anything about it.<BR/><BR/>SH: From Thursday, yeah, not your normal open times, Wednesday?<BR/><BR/>Kinetica receptionist: No, because Wednesday we still won’t be set up, So Thursday it is open to public<BR/><BR/>SH: Right<BR/><BR/>Kinetica receptionist: and it’s running until the 15th of July.<BR/><BR/>SH: Right<BR/><BR/>Kinetica receptionist: And were all the way through, we are staying open Mondays and Tuesdays as well for that week<BR/><BR/>SH: So of the following week you’ll stay open Monday and Tues?<BR/><BR/>Kinetica receptionist: Pretty much all the way through from the 5th to the 13th,<BR/><BR/>SH: From the 5th to the 13th, did you say 15th earlier?<BR/><BR/>Kinetica receptionist: No the 13th, Friday the 13th, lucky for some.<BR/><BR/>SH: Ok, excellent, thanks very much goodbye.<BR/><BR/>Kinetica receptionist: Bye.Will Gormanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11560983033718010747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2087544938250245173.post-64563978010544782172007-07-01T11:03:00.000-07:002007-07-01T11:03:00.000-07:00@ mary yugocould you please post this "promise" fr...@ mary yugo<BR/>could you please post this "promise" from Steorn regarding the 550 that you keep going on ( & on & On) about?<BR/><BR/>I don't remember ever seeing that.<BR/>but I do remember Sean stating that there was no such machine!<BR/><BR/>Why don't you stop posting BS...<BR/>actually, why don't you just stop posting? You promised last week that you wouldn't say anything more until the demo, and here you are spouting misinformation.<BR/><BR/>well you have proved that you aren't Pennies. "she" at least did research what "she" wrote about; not just invented stuffAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2087544938250245173.post-71368031899485728762007-07-01T10:07:00.000-07:002007-07-01T10:07:00.000-07:00Everything I know says Orbo cannot be true, but I ...Everything I know says Orbo cannot be true, but I also know I don't know everything. It's worth remembering that cold fusion seemed like an amazing breakthrough that went nowhere.<BR/><BR/>It's either an incredible technological development or an incredible wind-up, I can't decide which. I'm able to drop in to London this week to see what sort of history being made. Keeping an open mind is making my head ache, I hope the demo is conclusive, one way or the other!bchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12014883276329736216noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2087544938250245173.post-37188707047142030892007-07-01T08:51:00.000-07:002007-07-01T08:51:00.000-07:00"0.72 megawatt prototype"Isn't that about what a 5..."0.72 megawatt prototype"<BR/><BR/>Isn't that about what a 550bhp genset could make?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2087544938250245173.post-55849060262343953072007-07-01T08:04:00.000-07:002007-07-01T08:04:00.000-07:00"As someone who has seen the demo Orbo rev4.c, I m..."As someone who has seen the demo Orbo rev4.c, I must urge you all not to make light of this situation."<BR/><BR/>Why not? Nothing has been demonstrated yet? Can't we have a good time until it is?<BR/><BR/>"The Orbo on display is the 0.72 megawatt prototype '4c', fully self sustaining. "<BR/><BR/>You know, that's awfully easy to say. How do we know it's not a joke, a delusion, mood altering substances, or just from a kid playing on a computer?<BR/><BR/>"The proof that it is 'real' will be visual, not in the sense of moving parts but in the distortion field surrounding the device as it reaches peak output."<BR/><BR/>Well, is that something entertaining to look fowrward to? That's... well, to be polite, STRANGE. It would make a lot more sense to power an electrical generator and light up the night, wouldn't it? Anyway, what exactly *is* a distortion field?<BR/><BR/>(Now listen for the crickets chirp in the night... I don't think Professor X or this latest "anony mouse" is going to respond to rational questions)<BR/><BR/>Anyway, we'll soon know what Steorn has, literally, up their sleeves. Why make fanciful guesses? Why not just wait?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2087544938250245173.post-18960786770563974882007-07-01T06:00:00.000-07:002007-07-01T06:00:00.000-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Ping1400https://www.blogger.com/profile/05945825996144115384noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2087544938250245173.post-21183789264539677992007-07-01T04:19:00.000-07:002007-07-01T04:19:00.000-07:00As someone who has seen the demo Orbo rev4.c, I mu...As someone who has seen the demo Orbo rev4.c, I must urge you all not to make light of this situation. The demo (or "4c" as they have nicknamed it) will be at Kinetica on 7/7/07 (Steorn picked this as a 'memorable' date for historical purposes). This event will be unlike anything mankind has experienced. Only one other event could match the magnitude of this and that would be the introduction of extra terrestrials. In other words this is as BIG as it gets, companies will crumble on the day, millions will lose their jobs, markets will crash and some individuals will take their own lives in the aftermath that follows. All I ask is you think about that before you make jokes. Ultimately things will settle and our new world will emerge. The Orbo on display is the 0.72 megawatt prototype '4c', fully self sustaining. The proof that it is 'real' will be visual, not in the sense of moving parts but in the distortion field surrounding the device as it reaches peak output. It is unlike anything you will ever see, ever.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2087544938250245173.post-20661189318755338792007-06-30T16:30:00.000-07:002007-06-30T16:30:00.000-07:00Do you honestly think the Science Museum would tou...Do you honestly think the Science Museum would touch this with a 10 foot pole?<BR/><BR/>Even if Steorn is true, the Science Museum won't have it on display until more than half of mainstream science believes in it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2087544938250245173.post-83084101483438516822007-06-30T12:17:00.000-07:002007-06-30T12:17:00.000-07:00I called the Science Museum in London and asked ab...I called the Science Museum in London and asked about the Stoern demo and they said to call back on Monday and talk to a Laura Singleton because he could not comment on it. I don't know who she is. <BR/>Weird. Maybe some truth to it?? I'll call on Monday. <BR/>Maybe a Demo at two locations?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2087544938250245173.post-78446213531390245642007-06-30T10:51:00.000-07:002007-06-30T10:51:00.000-07:00If they're trying to do something clever like driv...If they're trying to do something clever like drive up the price of neodymium, surely they would be clever enough to realize that an "infinite energy machine" is impossible, and any leaks pertaining to one would be laughed at by the vast majority of investors. <BR/><BR/>That's one thing I find unconvincing about just about any scam scenario. This supposed scam could have been made much more convincing if they'd chosen something else for their "technology," like working cold fusion, or a cheap hydrogen engine.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2087544938250245173.post-49751672045944826782007-06-30T09:11:00.000-07:002007-06-30T09:11:00.000-07:00So..a scam to bump the price of Neodymium etc? The...So..a scam to bump the price of Neodymium etc? There is no Neo futures market for Steorn to bump. So no dice there.<BR/> The Chinese government, however, have recently upped the price of Neo and are doing so again in August. Perhaps this is all part of a fiendish Chinese plot to take over the world. Shee Wan Mak ar Thee is revealed at last! Get real, this is happening.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2087544938250245173.post-81587518456410707722007-06-30T09:04:00.000-07:002007-06-30T09:04:00.000-07:00Hi Couldbe."If 1. doesn't happen I will become a r...Hi Couldbe.<BR/><BR/>"If 1. doesn't happen I will become a rabid skeptic who thinks they are charlatans running some sociological study or God knows what."<BR/><BR/>Just FYI --People don't collect millions of euros under false pretenses to perform "sociological studies". So "if 1", think fraud. I'm afraid you might not even know what a "rabid skeptic" is much less have the ability to become one.<BR/><BR/>"If 2": That would virtually prove that whatever they show has a hidden power source.<BR/><BR/>If Steorn is legitimate, they must show a device which runs under its own power, runs a load, and they will allow someone such as Dr. Mike to take it apart sufficiently to rule out completely that it has a hidden battery or other energy source.<BR/><BR/>Please don't have a short memory. Steorn has promised a water pump for Africa, a 550 HP motor -- all in the short term. And they claim that their existing device has a power density of 0.5 watt/cm cube. That's substantial power-- not trivial. Steorn must be held to its claims.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com