tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2087544938250245173.post3931381347694400250..comments2023-10-17T03:46:35.289-07:00Comments on Free Energy Tracker: Photos of the Lab, No LoadWill Gormanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11560983033718010747noreply@blogger.comBlogger56125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2087544938250245173.post-56204224408106617202007-07-06T02:06:00.000-07:002007-07-06T02:06:00.000-07:00hey you can see a few fans on mobiles looking in t...hey you can see a few fans on mobiles looking in the window. Would have been better off heading to New York to get an IPhone.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2087544938250245173.post-74593356621773323182007-07-06T02:05:00.000-07:002007-07-06T02:05:00.000-07:00"Steorn is a marketing company, they've been bankr..."Steorn is a marketing company, they've been bankrolled by someone to do this."<BR/><BR/>Well they'd better make something work, cause if they don't they might as well cancel the return flights to Dublin - I'd give them 10 minutes at most in a Dublin pub, and I'm not talking about duped investors. :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2087544938250245173.post-74715560497554402522007-07-05T19:44:00.000-07:002007-07-05T19:44:00.000-07:00I would love to believe this is real but my backgr...I would love to believe this is real but my background forces me to believe it is not. <BR/><BR/>If the wheel turns continuously even without lifting an apparent load it is still running over-unity because it is expending power to overcome bearing and air friction. We need to make sure the wheel is not receiving power from external sources such as what is seen from a radiometer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crookes_radiometer <BR/><BR/>If the output is very low and for some reason is difficult to scale upwards it may be feasible to scale it downwards where millions of tiny generators could be fabricated similar to a semiconductor process where the total output of the group could do something useful.<BR/><BR/>Then again, if somehow the found a bizzare property where they could use "perminent magnets to create a time varying magnet field" it may be possible to periodically apply pressure to a diamagnetic material conected to a rotor. But the time varying aspect is the imposible part. It can be done with heat, but it ends up killing the magnet. (Geesh I sound as nutty as Steorn)<BR/><BR/>Geek SkepticAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2087544938250245173.post-28858885346702249152007-07-05T18:58:00.000-07:002007-07-05T18:58:00.000-07:00The .jpg was in the link. Anyway..Its simple, like...The .jpg was in the link. Anyway..<BR/><BR/>Its simple, like steorn says. The resemblance to perendev is just too much. The rotor (in the 'lab' pics posted here) has four tiny magnets equally spaced. The stator has slanted slots to hold the magnets.<BR/><BR/>Guess, the constant heat from the lights bent the plastic and threw the rotor out of alignment. In perendev motor, the angle and alignment is everything. (note that no one knows for sure if the original perendev motor works. The videos from perendev does show huge machines spinning on their own though)<BR/><BR/>So, is this a "me too" attempt by steorn? A mimicry of perendev's scam? Or they stumbled upon the real trick for making perendev work ? We will see....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2087544938250245173.post-32279794374359276992007-07-05T17:27:00.000-07:002007-07-05T17:27:00.000-07:00Thanks but that URL doesn't work. Try this one. ...Thanks but that URL doesn't work. Try <A HREF="http://aspspider.net/sebapilafis/blogPictures/seanorbo.jpg" REL="nofollow"> this one.</A> (I added dot jpg to it).<BR/><BR/>Doesn't look like something it took millions of Euros to make, does it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2087544938250245173.post-14089821754752118302007-07-05T16:40:00.000-07:002007-07-05T16:40:00.000-07:00http://aspspider.net/sebapilafis/blogPictures/sean...http://aspspider.net/sebapilafis/blogPictures/seanorbo.jpg<BR/><BR/>Sean holding the 'orbo' or whatever. <BR/><BR/>The webcams show nothing right now. The real thing is not inside the box, its empty.<BR/><BR/>This toy looks very similar to Perendev Motor. But I'm not sure.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2087544938250245173.post-6882479174271719122007-07-05T15:58:00.000-07:002007-07-05T15:58:00.000-07:00Reading yet even more over at the Steorn forums, o...Reading yet even more over at the Steorn forums, one thing is becoming apparent. The focus is shifting away from Steorn and towards Dr. Mike. Our good Doctor is becoming the super-star celebrity of the day! Good for you Dr. Mike, just wish you would throw out some more hints. I am patient though, I'm happy to wait till you get back to the States for a full debrief.JTerryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08141637937709808924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2087544938250245173.post-58225831380936606272007-07-05T15:37:00.001-07:002007-07-05T15:37:00.001-07:00Apparently, Steorn is pulling no punches and they ...Apparently, Steorn is pulling no punches and they are calling in <A HREF="http://img186.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=74888_orang_steorn_small_122_416lo.jpg" REL="nofollow"> their best heavyweight scientific talent</A> to assist with this problem.<BR/><BR/>(Sorry but I've about had it with those guys)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2087544938250245173.post-20261657592727312422007-07-05T15:37:00.000-07:002007-07-05T15:37:00.000-07:00http://www.steorn.com/orbo/demo/Important update o...http://www.steorn.com/orbo/demo/<BR/><BR/>Important update on the Kinetica demo:<BR/><BR/>We are experiencing some technical difficulties........and will provide an update later today..............<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>Not much of today left, where is the update?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2087544938250245173.post-55307490064798778472007-07-05T15:30:00.000-07:002007-07-05T15:30:00.000-07:00Two points:1. From what we know about the company ...Two points:<BR/><BR/>1. From what we know about the company history, Steorn seem to have never really accomplished anything. Nothing unusual this time.<BR/><BR/>2. Even if they get it going tomorrow, it will break again soon after.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2087544938250245173.post-13106969670795572572007-07-05T15:28:00.000-07:002007-07-05T15:28:00.000-07:00Pfft yeah right.In a very similar vein (to the not...Pfft yeah right.<BR/><BR/>In a very similar vein (to the notion that Steorn must have been serious and "had something" to get this far) I doubt that Kinetica would have considered hosting the presentation unless they had seen the working prototype up-front.<BR/><BR/>No, I think odds are that it's just a genuine goof-up that they are working through. What does Kinetica care anyway, they're just the host, they get a zillion hits on their web page and priceless exposure in the media (well, a little bit anyway). They didn't invent the machine, it doesn't really reflect on them on way or the other; they'd look pretty stupid if they throw out Steorn who subsequently gets it working at some other venue.<BR/><BR/>I guess I'll believe it when I see it, same as for everything involved here.Cappyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11418193230337756601noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2087544938250245173.post-27207795511326995392007-07-05T15:27:00.000-07:002007-07-05T15:27:00.000-07:00It appears that Dr. Mike has posted perhaps the s...It appears that Dr. Mike has posted perhaps the single greatest cliffhanger ever to appear in the Steorn Forum. To summarize, he said hang tight, we're living through a moment in history regardless of how it all turns out. Can that be anymore nail-biting? I would pay a goodly sum right now for Dr. Mike's phone number and a private convesation.<BR/><BR/>In other news, not a peep, not even a squeek, out of any of the rabid believers on the forum. They have gone absolutely silent. All I see there are people complaining about Steorn screw-up and skeptics snickering up their sleeves. I just can't believe that any publicity is good publicity; this is a bad deal for Steorn. Redemption will be hard fought.JTerryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08141637937709808924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2087544938250245173.post-65382606545522059502007-07-05T15:05:00.000-07:002007-07-05T15:05:00.000-07:00Ok folks, just got some inside scoop.. Kinetica a...Ok folks, just got some inside scoop.. Kinetica are 110% PISSED!! They have given Steorn till mid day tomorrow or are pulling the plug, "legal action" was another word heard thrown about repeatedly. In a nutshell they feel the integrity of their gallery has been severely damaged by Steorn. So, this is not looking good. I assume the believers are in TOTAL shock and hanging by a thread. What a debacle.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2087544938250245173.post-41454058002363903082007-07-05T14:57:00.000-07:002007-07-05T14:57:00.000-07:00My photos from the event are here:http://www.flick...My photos from the event are here:<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/salimfadhley/sets/72157600669264013/" REL="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/photos/salimfadhley/sets/72157600669264013/</A>dobsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00634981753587872285noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2087544938250245173.post-56033552376093649742007-07-05T14:48:00.000-07:002007-07-05T14:48:00.000-07:00@BC"It does seem amazing that with the resources o...@BC<BR/><BR/>"It does seem amazing that with the resources of the capital at their doorstep they can't find a way to fix it. Or just fly over something from Dublin..."<BR/><BR/>It's not only amazing, it demonstrates either tremendous negligence and incompetence or gross fraud. I guess they get to choose which it is.<BR/><BR/>"While we wait, some more topical humor Are you a quack? "<BR/><BR/>That's an instructive web site. They mention "numbers". Why hasn't Steorn, after all this time, released specifics of force, power, energy and more beyond their vague and presumably theoretical 0.5 w/cc figures? I mean, are they doing anything other to earn their salaries than giving bad lectures, doing boring interviews and censoring forums? Aren't they doing experiments? Where are the results? One can give out clear unambiguous test results and system specifications without revealing trade secrets but Steorn has never done that. Being vague, tangential and defensive has been their usual operating mode which is in itself cause for suspicion.<BR/><BR/>And then there are all the other good questions others asked such as how it's possible that university scientists would be shown an overunity device, agree that it is valid, and refuse to be witnesses for it. Steorn claims that this happened. But of course they won't name names or produce interviews. How suspicious should that have been long ago?<BR/><BR/>The whole thing smells increasingly of very stale fish.<BR/><BR/>Like someone else said, I feel sorry for Kinetica. I'd feel sorry for the investors too but that's tempered by my belief in "caveat emptor". They should have known better and proceeded differently.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2087544938250245173.post-89254168311800589242007-07-05T14:39:00.000-07:002007-07-05T14:39:00.000-07:00You know what I want to see, I want to see PROOF t...You know what I want to see, I want to see PROOF that the work does not come out of the magnet.<BR/><BR/>Okay lets say what we have right now is a genuine goof-up and the machine really does work, and will be operating by tomorrow or whenever. Like someone else here said their wristwatch ran just fine, doing next to no work, for 5 years straight now, poof, there that means it's a PPM! Well no because it consumes a very slight amount of energy doing next-to-no work from a tiny built-in battery.<BR/><BR/>The Orbo machine won't work without the magnet. Therefore, I suspect it is the magnet that supplies the energy (that is, assuming that the thing works at all).<BR/><BR/>So what I want to see is a demo machine that can produce, say, a MegaJoule without wearing out the magnet. That's a lot of energy. It would have to lift up a 1 kg weight 10 cm a million times over, and still be crankin'. I doubt a magnet has a MJ of energy in it; if it did THAT MUCH WORK then I'd be satisfied, yes, they are truly suckin' in entropy somehow or other.<BR/><BR/>If this demo works (and I suspect that yes it will eventually) okay; fine. But it still does not ~prove~ that the energy is not being derived from the magnets; but it does prove that a pure magnet reciprocating machine is possible, which is remarkable by itself; but not quite the "full Monty".Cappyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11418193230337756601noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2087544938250245173.post-80771319069780069412007-07-05T14:18:00.000-07:002007-07-05T14:18:00.000-07:00I assume that the device shown in Cam1 is the hous...I assume that the device shown in Cam1 is the housing for the disc wheel shown in the "toolshed" pic?<BR/><BR/>The slots in the housing are perhaps for mounting magnets. The disc has a spindle with presumably the faulty bearing. It does seem amazing that with the resources of the capital at their doorstep they can't find a way to fix it. Or just fly over something from Dublin...<BR/><BR/>While we wait, some more topical humor <A HREF="http://insti.physics.sunysb.edu/~siegel/quack.html" REL="nofollow">Are you a quack?</A>bchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12014883276329736216noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2087544938250245173.post-46955756456920658102007-07-05T14:12:00.000-07:002007-07-05T14:12:00.000-07:00Dr Mike posted on the forum again, no news really,...Dr Mike posted on the forum again, no news really, just said to hang tight, and that 'we're living thru a moment in history' not sure if anything should be read into that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2087544938250245173.post-70674978191282416762007-07-05T14:09:00.000-07:002007-07-05T14:09:00.000-07:00I've just spoken with some people with Steorn and ...I've just spoken with some people with Steorn and they've finally figured out what's really causing the problems. It's not the heat from the lighting that's the problem, it's global warming! Al Gore, add this to the list.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2087544938250245173.post-44065231946814551282007-07-05T13:57:00.000-07:002007-07-05T13:57:00.000-07:00Ahhh yes! Performance art at it's finest! They a...Ahhh yes! Performance art at it's finest! They are now going into the "how long we can string them along" phase, next phase = "do the believers still believe even after we give them nothing?" (I can tell you that answer will be a resounding YES). Steorn is a marketing company, they've been bankrolled by someone to do this. It's Performance Art/Viral Marketing all wrapped up with a bow on top. In two more days all cameras will be trained onto a product within the glass case, possibly an xbox game or new mobile phone (Helio Orbo Smartphone perhaps) etc.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2087544938250245173.post-65526090263739271332007-07-05T13:27:00.000-07:002007-07-05T13:27:00.000-07:00Are we to believe that Orbo has been developed by ...Are we to believe that Orbo has been developed by Steorn in the dark or camera shy? <BR/><BR/>This is getting more lame by the hour. They've had a year to get this demo working; there are no plausible excuses.<BR/><BR/>What could be the motive for such an expensive and long disinformation campaign?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2087544938250245173.post-34788799408470111282007-07-05T13:18:00.000-07:002007-07-05T13:18:00.000-07:00LOL....you have to watch this video of James Randi...LOL....you have to watch this video of James Randi destroying this con man. <BR/>The BEST part is that this guy claims he could not do his magical powers because the lights were too hot!!! Just like ORBO. This is too funny!!! <BR/><BR/>The whining about the lights occurs at 12:20 into the clip. <BR/><BR/>http://youtube.com/watch?v=QlfMsZwr8rcAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2087544938250245173.post-77563190874672104572007-07-05T13:09:00.000-07:002007-07-05T13:09:00.000-07:00Grimer: I'm a Spud and I've been commenting withou...Grimer: I'm a Spud and I've been commenting without objection from the mods. I think that lack of comments from the Spuds may be because they fear they've been led up the garden path and jilted at the altar with a bun in the oven. :shamed:<BR/><BR/>-----------<BR/><BR/>Best comment of the day!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2087544938250245173.post-31636363510130701612007-07-05T13:08:00.000-07:002007-07-05T13:08:00.000-07:00Looking at it sympathetically - it sounds like the...Looking at it sympathetically - it sounds like they've tried to make a jazzy, sexy version of the device out of just a few bits of perspex. Subsequently this much more slight version suffers from thermal expansion in a way that a 'proper' Orbo would not.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2087544938250245173.post-64977534392356652242007-07-05T13:07:00.000-07:002007-07-05T13:07:00.000-07:00If the lights on the ceiling are the problem then ...If the lights on the ceiling are the problem then you better dont step in that room or you will be vaporized....<BR/><BR/>Im getting tired of all these "mishappenings" offcourse someone can stumble against some unforseen problems but at steorn it looks like their company slogan.. I would really like to believe them but why is it that at demos suddenly the device freezesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com