Monday, May 14, 2007

First 8 Minutes Transcribed...

It's a lot of work to transcribe interviews! It took about an hour to get the first eight minutes of the interview down on paper. You can read them here. I'll be working on getting the whole interview transcribed over the next few days. Below are some of the interesting parts of the first eight minutes.

Sean in response to whether he thinks that engaging the forums is a waste of time:

Sean: ... I don't see it at all as a waste of time, we’ve been asked by Trinity to do a similar kind of thing, ultimately its part of a process of erosion that people have now distilled the view, that I can understand, we're either for real, that people will say that it is such a small probability its not worth considering, or some kind of fraud. General opinion has actually consolidated into a very black and white vision. At the end of that, the black and whiteness of it will be resolved one way or another. Either we will be proven to be fraud, which we're not, or we will be proven to be right which we are, and then we can actually get on with the business of business.
Sean also clarifies some of the details leading up to the UCD debate, and clarifies comments he made about being lied to:
... eventually we got to speaking to the person who is responsible for issuing approval for filming in the university and he’d never heard of it, and that is specifically what I’m referring to ...

The Trinity visit should be interesting. I think we're going to have plenty of entertainment between now and July.

13 comments:

Anonymous said...

I've transcribed audio taped conversation before. Until then, I really did not know the true meaning of tedium.

A good audio wave editor really helps, especially with the difficult to hear parts.

In my book you are a saint for taking this on.

Anonymous said...

So the academics tried to pull the videos of the presentation? Sounds like they're running scared of being proven wrong.

Anonymous said...

What is this about Trinity? I only track Steorn on your website. The Steorn forums are chaos.

Anonymous said...

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So the academics tried to pull the videos of the presentation? Sounds like they're running scared of being proven wrong.
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Yeah... that's why they invited Sean in the first place... so that they could run scared and pull the videos.

/rolls eyes.

Tundrabog said...

Sean's phone interview with SteornTracker is the only reference I've seen to a presentation at Trinity. I expect the reference is to Trinity College in Dublin and that the "similar kind of thing" refers to Sean's visit to University College.

SteornTracker said...

My impression of the Trinity comment was that there will be another presentation by Steorn at Trinity in the near future, or at least it's in the planning phases.

Father Luke Duke said...

"General opinion has actually consolidated into a very black and white vision. At the end of that, the black and whiteness of it will be resolved one way or another.
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It's funny how Sean originally sounded quite good, even to people who didn't believe in perpetual motion. I think it's just because he has that natural Oirish charm and passion. Now we are actually scrutinizing it in detail, and he's under some pressure, it comes across as absolute bollocks.

It's just circular arguements, truisms and tautology. Eg.

"Either we will be proven to be fraud, which we're not, or we will be proven to be right which we are"
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Eh? This makes my head hurt. Why the "either" which he then negates by saying that he's definitely right? (and if you have a perpetual motion machine running at 400% then there can't be an doubt). Meaningless.

"eventually we got to speaking to the person who is responsible for issuing approval for filming in the university and he’d never heard of it, and that is specifically what I’m referring to"
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So that's the university lying? No institution will allow filming on it's premises unless it either has editorial control, or there is something in it for them - such as good PR. Why would they? Chances are nobody had asked for the approval from the media office, that's why they had never heard of it. They would have said no anyway.

Not sure how this put Sean at a disadvantage, as he seemed to make out - the debate was conducted properly and he had plenty of chance to say his bit. Why he needs a documentary team with him I don't know.

Good luck transcribing that drivel steontracker, I don't envy you...and keep up the good work.

JTerry said...

An interesting post from Crank yesterday under a heading referring to whether the "jury" had yet seen/tested the device:

Crank:
"My recollection is that he (Sean) said the jury laid out the way they wanted to approach the task, not Steorn. So they're progressing along their own path, and Steorn are fitting in with them."

Crank, I think you need to read the contract and understand a little better how this jury works. Under the contract, the jury members are to complete work as instructed by Steorn. Except for the actual testing or analysis of a specific data set given to the jury by Steorn, the jury has ZERO freedom to direct how this validation process will occur and progress. Steorn, under the contract, has absolute control over the process at all times.

And so, Steorn says, "ok this week you will review this data". A few weeks later, Steorn says, "ok, now look at this paper," and etc. But what will never happen, by the terms of the contract, is the jury empowered to say, "ok, Steorn, next week we will all come to your office and test your device."

Steorn controlled and continues to control each and every step of this alleged "validation" process and the jury members are mere "contractors" for Steorn.

As such, the jury members are NOT, "...progressing along their own path, and Steorn are fitting in with them." That is just flat out wrong. Similarly, Steorn laid out how they wanted to approach validation and NOT the jury members. Maybe you could clarify this with your unkown accountant friend who also seems to labor under a variety of delusions.

Finally, to emphasize, the jury has not seen the device nor has it been given plans to build an actual exact replica. Until that happens, there is no substance or meaning to the jury outside of its use as a Steorn propaganda tool.

Anonymous said...

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So the academics tried to pull the videos of the presentation? Sounds like they're running scared of being proven wrong.
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Yeah... that's why they invited Sean in the first place... so that they could run scared and pull the videos.

/rolls eyes.
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How stupid are the academics (and you) going to look when Orbo hits the market.

ROFLMAO

Anonymous said...

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General opinion has actually consolidated into a very black and white vision.
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I think that Sean, here, is a victim of his own forum. I suspect that's the posting tip of the iceberg. I'll bet that underneath the surface the vast majority have recognized the pointlessness of continuing to weigh in with their opinion. Steorn will do nothing but tease until the reveal. It will turn out one way or the other and no amount of vigilance and public speculation will change the outcome in the least.

Suomipoika said...

"How stupid are the academics (and you) going to look when Orbo hits the market"

How stupid you already look, energyman007.

SteornTracker said...

E8,

If you want to flame someone in here, please do it without swearing so much.

Thanks,

SteornTracker

Anonymous said...

"If you want to flame someone...."

That’s a crippling blow, you limit his vocabulary to merely a handful of words. LOL

Cheers ST, I imagine you have to filter a lot of foulness to keep this place as noise free as it is. Thanks.